In a candid interview with the BBC, Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva expressed his strained relationship with former US President Donald Trump, emphasizing that there is ‘no relationship’ between them. Lula criticized Trump’s imposition of 50% tariffs on Brazilian goods in July, describing the move as ’eminently political’ and warning that US consumers would bear the brunt of higher prices for Brazilian exports like coffee and beef. The tariffs, which Lula learned about through Brazilian newspapers, have significantly impacted Brazil’s trade with the US. Lula accused Trump of failing to communicate in a civilized manner, noting that the tariffs were announced via social media rather than through diplomatic channels. Despite his frosty ties with Trump, Lula highlighted his strong relationships with other global leaders, including former US presidents, UK prime ministers, and leaders from the EU, China, Ukraine, and Venezuela. He also defended his continued engagement with Russian President Vladimir Putin, whom he described as a longstanding ally. Lula called for reform of the United Nations, criticizing the veto power of the five permanent members of the Security Council and arguing that it undermines global democracy. He also addressed Brazil’s controversial oil exploration plans near the Amazon River, insisting that the country is adhering to strict environmental laws. Lula concluded by reflecting on his political legacy, including reducing hunger and unemployment, and left open the possibility of running for re-election in 2026.